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Thursday, 11 March 2010

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R. Karban

Laundry to landscape didn't work for us but we found a good bath to landscape device - www.siphonaid.com - with garden hose allows bath/shower gray water to be used outside. We gave siphonaids to neighbors who like them as well.

Todd Jarvis

Dear Avni:

Thank you for your message. It is always wonderful to meet a *follower* of the Rainbow Water Coalition.

It is interesting to read of your research project, especially given the timing of some of the recent RWC blog postings regarding student projects in Pennsylvania where their research found that greywater slowed plant growth.

However, many of the other student projects that I have followed on my blog have shown the exact same findings as your project - that greywater promotes plant growth. The following are some of the student projects that are comparable to yours with some of the same results:

http://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/2012/04/12/grey-water-project-a-winner

http://www.sungazette.net/arlington/people/local-students-take-top-honors-in-regional-science-engineering-fair/article_b1908a6a-6855-11e1-aed0-0019bb2963f4.html

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/179955#.Tir0P83xOr0

http://www.bclocalnews.com/news/117761123.html

One RWC Commenter indicated the following:

Did you ask a soil scientist? There's a real good chance that this kitchen sink water, with its organic constituents, is one of the best, or certainly not the worst, things we could do to the soil. As science will tell you, organic matter builds structure in the soil. Structure allows for maximum water retention, toxicity filtering, diversity of life, fertility....

Some soaps are not plant friendly:

http://rainbowwatercoalition.blogspot.com/2012/01/safe-soap-study.html

I think the increased growth in plants using greywater is related to the phosphorus that is found in the *soapy* water, along with some of the nutrients in kitchen sink water (food particles that degrade) as described in this article on a PhD research project:

http://www.sciencecentric.com/news/10050613-roots-meshed-waste-materials-could-clean-dirty-water.html

Also, tap water typically has chlorine and other disinfection by-products that can slow plant growth.

Another RWC Commenter indicated the following:

Use bleach when you wash and you can just kiss your plants and your soil goodbye. Greywater is okay as long as people use environmentally friendly products for their soaps, etc...

* * * * * *

I am hopeful this information is useful to your project and that you will share your final report and presentation with me so it can be profiled as one of the many Grey(t) Greywater Student Projects on the RWC!

Happy Holidays and thanks for reading the RWC!

Todd
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Avni Limdi

I am an eighth grade student and for my science fair I studied the impact of Graywater on an indoor ornamental plant and grass. I am seeking assistance to interpret the growth data I have collected. In my experiment the grass watered by graywater (prepared and collected from Kitchen sink and laundry room sink prepared using regular detergents) showed better growth than grass specimens watered using tap water. I also studied graywater prepared using Biodegradable detergents (prepared in the Kitchen sink and laundry room sink) and the grass watered using the BGW showed the most growth. I can share my data if necessary, do let me know if you can help me understand why grass watered using graywater showed growth better than grass watered using regular tap water.

PAUL F MILLER

According to the Arizona Dept of Environmental Quality (ADEQ) website, Arizona has a bona-fide "greywater" rule currently in place. And they do...! It goes something like this ... WE WON'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS & WE WON'T ENFORCE ... so do as you damn well please...

As an active stakeholder in the rule making and revision process in Arizona I find it amusing that exceptions were made to our vaunted RULES to accommodate Pima (Tucson) County as they have a storied history with greywater usage in their county, but, oops it doesn't follow the rules demanded in the other 14 Arizona counties

And moreover, ADEQ chooses not to enforce any of its RESIDENTIAL wastewater rules choosing instead to delegate it in the form of an unfunded mandate to the respective counties all of which are precariously short of funds.

Bottom line the GREYWATER rule in Arizona is DO IT in any manner ... pollute if necessary ... because no one will be looking ... it's called the HONOR system ... and you know how well that works ...

Respectfully submitted,

Paul F. Miller

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