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Ken Lanfear

Regarding Portland's decision to empty its reservoir, in drinking water, perception is important. Although the public health risk is minuscule, if people perceive their water as tainted, they will seek alternative sources which may be less safe or more damaging to environment.

For exactly the same reason, there are color standards for drinking water. Color has no impact on health, but people will avoid water with a noticeable color - and not just mellow yellow!

Michael Campana

Thanks, David. Always enjoy your comments.

Yes, the 'predatory publishers' issue is a perplexing one. I just got an email the the day telling me that one of my AWRA abstracts from 2012 had been 'pre-accepted' by some e-journal I'd never heard of. Go figure!

Perplexing - and so is the Portland 'pee' issue. I know of no WQ standards on urine, just on individual chemicals that may be present in urine. What's more important here is that the 'reputation' of the Portland water supply is protected. That is far more important than the managers' reputations. You know how touchy the public can be when they imagine that fluids associated with human bodily functions are in their water - never mind beaver piss or bird shit.

Regarding your comments about frat boys: I suppose that is one reason why the reservoirs are under a mandate to be covered. You could also make the penalties very stiff for such transgressions and hold people financially liable.

See the comment from Ken Lanfear.

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Good work on a Sunday.

1) It's a tough call on the predatory publishers. They need to make a reputation, so they want to take it easy on authors. They want to make $, so the same. Referees may be lazy, so papers are accepted "too easily." A few years ago, I had a paper "pre-accepted" from one of these. I ended up withdrawing it and submitting elsewhere, which turned out to be a good move. Traditional journals, OTOH, can be quite sloppy (I had a paper rejected from a top-3 econ journal by a referee who didn't even read the abstract). So there's a lot of noise, and Beall is trying to filter it.

On (2), I'm shocked. Don't they have a water quality standard? If they go by pee, then I bet frat guys will start peeing, just to say "I flushed a 50 million gallon toilet." Another example of managers wasting ratepayer $ on their reputation...

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